Comments on: Creation Museum Part 4

By: Dan

Dan — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:37:24 +0000

For the record, I don’t think that God screwed up the world… since I don’t believe in God. Understand that I’m simply relating the story as portrayed by the Creation Museum (and Genesis) in this post.

The Genesis story (as with many other biblical stories) clearly shows that the God of the story is not perfect, omnipotent, omnisicent, or omnipresent. You ask why create a servant who had to obey? Why create a servant at all? That aside, if God in this story was perfect, how could he ever create anything that wasn’t perfect? If he created something that was faulty, it would show that he, himself was imperfect.

So, in the book of Genesis, God DID screw up the world because he made it imperfectly. You can’t blame Satan. Wouldn’t God have created him, too? Was that another mistake? The bible is filled with contradictions of this nature.

I’m going to ignore the rest of your comment because it was pure proselytizing and gibberish.

By: john

john — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:03:12 +0000

I take issue with you Dan, on your view that God screwed up his world. You are made in the image of God and you find his plan reprehensible. If it was God’s intention to give man free will, what would be the point of creating a servant who had to obey? You also forget Satan’s part in all of this. Since the beginning of time He has been bent on bringing destruction to the abundant life God promises. I am in awe that with God he turns situations intended to be bad into good. Satan thought he had won a great victory when Jesus was murdered on the cross but completely unprepared for the resurrection but you will be telling me I am sure that you do not even believe in the resurrection. The Holy Spirit is real, the resurrection happened. There are things science cannot explain. The only way to find truth sometimes is to earnestly seek it. It’s no good having set views. You may think from my posts that my views are strong and fixed but no. I am open to persuasion; you cannot be a scientist if you do not have an open mind. You have to search time and time again to collect evidence. When miracles happen, it blows me away and rocks my scientific mind to the core. If you looked into the reality of salvation it may help you understand more about God. It is unfortunate that there is so much religion and extremism in the world it has muddied the waters of truth. One of Jesus famous lines was “the truth shall set you free”. He never condemned anyone and ate with prostitutes and drug addicts. Most of his time was spent with the down and outs and healing physical infirmities. Much talk is made today about respecting peoples rights to be and do whatever they want and try to categorise people. I believe people are born in sin and the world shapes us. We have choices too and we are not born in equal circumstances. We all have the potential to commit murder, be homosexual, become addicted to alcohol, drugs and to be nasty as hell. What kind of world would it be if we all did those things? but even our righteousness is as filthy rags so without God we are nothing; without love we are nothing. I have no right to condemn or judge anybody but whatever is true and good think on these things. To live in peace, to marry and be in a loving family, to be free of addiction, to make music to worship God and to live an interesting life with wonderful leisure activities are my ideals. They are possible with God but temporal on this planet. God’s plan is for a life after we die but evolutionists dismiss that when deep in their soul if they look in the mirror they would maybe find their destiny. My science is useless without the One who gives me life and the opportunity to worship Him is an integral part of my life. Why not listen to some of Andre Crouch’s music and find a spirit-filled person and reconnect with your maker. Ha.

By: Three Ninjas

Three Ninjas — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:20:29 +0000

The vegetables Adam is growing took thousands of years of artificial selection to produce. Where did they come from?

By: Ori

Ori — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:37:46 +0000

“God made male and female fit for different roles from the beginning.”

Ah, fundamentalist sexism. Using an old creation fable to justify outdated gender roles. Classic.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:08:57 +0000

Thanks for the Utube/Gervais tip, except my sides hurt now from laughing so hard.

By: Ken

Ken — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:57:34 +0000

Remember boys and girls bearing false witness is not really a sin when you’re Lying For Jesus.

By: truthspeaker

truthspeaker — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:12:04 +0000

Speaking of things Genesis doesn’t say – it never says the serpent was Satan. Identifying the serpent with Satan doesn’t show up until well into the New Testament.

So much for literalism.

By: arachnophilia

arachnophilia — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:13:55 +0000

literal creationists and other fundamentalists tend to have a poor understanding of a great many things.

and it is wrong to say that their sexism come from the bible — it comes from elsewhere, and the bible merely supports it. they don’t actually take much of what they believe from the bible.

but it would also be very, very wrong to say that there is not sexism in the bible. certainly genesis 2+3 is a good example, as is the timothy verse referenced. but there are some counter-examples as well, heroic feminine figures in the bible, that shouldn’t be ignored either. but even in cases like ruth or esther or judith (depending on your bible), their heroism is still tied to certainly sexist ideas. but the bible really is not any one thing.

and hey, for a book written so long ago, what do you expect, right?

By: arachnophilia

arachnophilia — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:09:20 +0000

yes, they like evolution when it suits them. and when it’s completely bullshit and anti-scientific.

(but, um, yes, some dinosaurs are still here. there’s a good chance you’ve eaten one recently. and no, those dragons in the bible are not dinosaurs.)

By: arachnophilia

arachnophilia — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:06:55 +0000

the story in genesis never actually said the snake had legs, just that he was cursed to go about on his belly afterwards, so presumably he did not before. that he had legs before is a somewhat reasonable assumption (they’re probably explaining why snakes don’t have legs, right?) but it’s not the only reasonable assumption.

but, uh, that’s a really cool looking snake.