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		<title>By: Joe Agnost</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalitynow.com/blog/2009/09/17/ray-comfort-and-charles-darwin/comment-page-1/#comment-708</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Agnost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Lark... but it looks like that homeschooling didn&#039;t do you any good.

It is absolutely NOT illegal for students to pray in school. The date you supplied above (June 25, 1962) is the date that the supreme court decided that: &quot;it is unconstitutional for state officials to compose an official school prayer and require its recitation in public schools.&quot;
That means that you can&#039;t be forced (by school officials) to pray in school - a public school is NOT allowed to require prayer. It says NOTHING about students praying on their own behalf.

So - your little &#039;kicked out of school&#039; story about a silent prayer before a test.... I&#039;m afraid it&#039;s quite obviously bullshit. Nice try though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Lark&#8230; but it looks like that homeschooling didn&#8217;t do you any good.</p>
<p>It is absolutely NOT illegal for students to pray in school. The date you supplied above (June 25, 1962) is the date that the supreme court decided that: &#8220;it is unconstitutional for state officials to compose an official school prayer and require its recitation in public schools.&#8221;<br />
That means that you can&#8217;t be forced (by school officials) to pray in school &#8211; a public school is NOT allowed to require prayer. It says NOTHING about students praying on their own behalf.</p>
<p>So &#8211; your little &#8216;kicked out of school&#8217; story about a silent prayer before a test&#8230;. I&#8217;m afraid it&#8217;s quite obviously bullshit. Nice try though!</p>
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		<title>By: Lark</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalitynow.com/blog/2009/09/17/ray-comfort-and-charles-darwin/comment-page-1/#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>Lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and for the record...

The date was June 25, 1962. On that date it was decided that prayer should not be allowed in the public schools in the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and for the record&#8230;</p>
<p>The date was June 25, 1962. On that date it was decided that prayer should not be allowed in the public schools in the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Lark</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalitynow.com/blog/2009/09/17/ray-comfort-and-charles-darwin/comment-page-1/#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>Lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was not in the news because my parents and I are not media whores like others.  However it was an issue that I brought up in my homeschool Student Government group. I personally wrote a bill stating the allowing of prayer back in schools.  I wish I still had the paperwork to prove to you that it is not allowed.  I tore another girl apart when she it was time for question and answer after her &quot;take the &#039;under God&#039; out of the pledge&quot; bill with the information I had found.    Apparently I was not the only one who this has happened to.  One of my best friends was put into &quot;Alternative School&quot; because she pulled her bible out during Study Hall.  It is a very real thing.  

There is no pertinent information to share, because it is a simple case of prejudice.  I was informed when I was sent to the principal&#039;s office that I was breaching &quot;Separation of Church and State&quot; and that I should feel lucky that all I was getting was a suspension.  

Our Country was founded on Christian religious beliefs. &quot;In God We Trust&quot; is printed on our money, and it&#039;s just one form of showing this. The first amendment states &quot;Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.&quot;  
No where does it say excluding Christianity. 

I&#039;m not saying that we should throw Christianity at people and make them believe the Bible. That&#039;s not what our Country is about.  It&#039;s about allowing people the right to choose.  Heck, I personally don&#039;t believe in Organized Religion, and I&#039;m skeptical about the bible.  It was written by man, and man is not infallible, along with being translated several times into different languages. Everyone knows languages don&#039;t directly translate.


You can remain skeptical, I don&#039;t really care.  I just wanted to share that you were incorrect with your accusations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was not in the news because my parents and I are not media whores like others.  However it was an issue that I brought up in my homeschool Student Government group. I personally wrote a bill stating the allowing of prayer back in schools.  I wish I still had the paperwork to prove to you that it is not allowed.  I tore another girl apart when she it was time for question and answer after her &#8220;take the &#8216;under God&#8217; out of the pledge&#8221; bill with the information I had found.    Apparently I was not the only one who this has happened to.  One of my best friends was put into &#8220;Alternative School&#8221; because she pulled her bible out during Study Hall.  It is a very real thing.  </p>
<p>There is no pertinent information to share, because it is a simple case of prejudice.  I was informed when I was sent to the principal&#8217;s office that I was breaching &#8220;Separation of Church and State&#8221; and that I should feel lucky that all I was getting was a suspension.  </p>
<p>Our Country was founded on Christian religious beliefs. &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; is printed on our money, and it&#8217;s just one form of showing this. The first amendment states &#8220;Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.&#8221;<br />
No where does it say excluding Christianity. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that we should throw Christianity at people and make them believe the Bible. That&#8217;s not what our Country is about.  It&#8217;s about allowing people the right to choose.  Heck, I personally don&#8217;t believe in Organized Religion, and I&#8217;m skeptical about the bible.  It was written by man, and man is not infallible, along with being translated several times into different languages. Everyone knows languages don&#8217;t directly translate.</p>
<p>You can remain skeptical, I don&#8217;t really care.  I just wanted to share that you were incorrect with your accusations.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalitynow.com/blog/2009/09/17/ray-comfort-and-charles-darwin/comment-page-1/#comment-638</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that hard to believe, but assuming it&#039;s true that the reason you were sent the the principal&#039;s office and received a suspension was, indeed, that you simply prayed silently before a test (and not for some other real or imagined offense), then it was a gross error on the part of the teacher and is an extreme exception.

I find your story somewhat implausible, though, and feel that perhaps you&#039;re not divulging all the pertinent information. Did the issue ever make the news? I&#039;d be interested to see a third-party writeup of the event.

Regardless, it is not the norm and there is no law, state or federal, that prohibits individual prayer in public schools. If you can find an exception to that statement, I&#039;ll happily amend it, noting a rare exception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that hard to believe, but assuming it&#8217;s true that the reason you were sent the the principal&#8217;s office and received a suspension was, indeed, that you simply prayed silently before a test (and not for some other real or imagined offense), then it was a gross error on the part of the teacher and is an extreme exception.</p>
<p>I find your story somewhat implausible, though, and feel that perhaps you&#8217;re not divulging all the pertinent information. Did the issue ever make the news? I&#8217;d be interested to see a third-party writeup of the event.</p>
<p>Regardless, it is not the norm and there is no law, state or federal, that prohibits individual prayer in public schools. If you can find an exception to that statement, I&#8217;ll happily amend it, noting a rare exception.</p>
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		<title>By: Lark</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalitynow.com/blog/2009/09/17/ray-comfort-and-charles-darwin/comment-page-1/#comment-637</link>
		<dc:creator>Lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,
I hate to break it to you... But prayer in public schools is not allowed. 

I know for a fact, as that was the reason my parents took me out of public school and started homeschooling me.

I prayed SILENTLY before a test, and was kicked out of the classroom and sent to the principal&#039;s office.  I was not allowed to retake the test and was suspended from the school for a week.  All because I bowed my head in prayer.

I didn&#039;t ask anyone else to pray with me, I didn&#039;t force anyone else to listen to my prayer, yet I was given an unjust punishment for it.  

Interestingly enough though, there were Muslim children who were allowed to leave the school to go pray whenever they wanted to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,<br />
I hate to break it to you&#8230; But prayer in public schools is not allowed. </p>
<p>I know for a fact, as that was the reason my parents took me out of public school and started homeschooling me.</p>
<p>I prayed SILENTLY before a test, and was kicked out of the classroom and sent to the principal&#8217;s office.  I was not allowed to retake the test and was suspended from the school for a week.  All because I bowed my head in prayer.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t ask anyone else to pray with me, I didn&#8217;t force anyone else to listen to my prayer, yet I was given an unjust punishment for it.  </p>
<p>Interestingly enough though, there were Muslim children who were allowed to leave the school to go pray whenever they wanted to.</p>
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		<title>By: Buck Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalitynow.com/blog/2009/09/17/ray-comfort-and-charles-darwin/comment-page-1/#comment-631</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, and it&#039;s very encouraging to see people posting THE TRUTH about what&#039;s happening.

It&#039;s ironic that atheists are more interested in the truth than religious people, and it&#039;s that fact that will see the end of religious domination on earth.  Let&#039;s leave the world as a better place than when we entered it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, and it&#8217;s very encouraging to see people posting THE TRUTH about what&#8217;s happening.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ironic that atheists are more interested in the truth than religious people, and it&#8217;s that fact that will see the end of religious domination on earth.  Let&#8217;s leave the world as a better place than when we entered it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalitynow.com/blog/2009/09/17/ray-comfort-and-charles-darwin/comment-page-1/#comment-589</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure where you got the idea that anyone thinks a shaky foundation of someone&#039;s own beliefs would debunk the historicity of the Christian faith. I&#039;m also a bit baffled about your parenthetical statement regarding the resurrection as &quot;historical fact.&quot; It is certainly no such thing.

There are no eye-witness accounts of the resurrection of Jesus. There is only hearsay. In addition to that, the only hearsay is only in the bible itself, so that&#039;s hardly any basis for claiming historical truth.

Christianity can be no more convincingly argued than any other religion, including (but not limited to) Judaism, Islam, Mormanism, and Hinduism... and even Scientology. Every religion makes a claim of absolute truth and has their own talking points to back up their claims. Each one would scoff at your claim that Christianity is the only one that can be convincingly argued. Even among Christians, there are radical differences in the beliefs held by different sects, with many sects claiming to hold the only &quot;correct&quot; interpretation of the bible.

Anyone looking in from the outside can see the absurdity of your statements. With so many religions, all of them claiming to be the one special, true religion... all of them claiming to have extraordinary reasons for their truth... all of them claiming to hold the only path to salvation... it&#039;s a bit of a stretch to say that yours in the only one that can be convincingly argued.

I&#039;ll be happy to take a look at the video series you linked. Thanks for the link and for your visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure where you got the idea that anyone thinks a shaky foundation of someone&#8217;s own beliefs would debunk the historicity of the Christian faith. I&#8217;m also a bit baffled about your parenthetical statement regarding the resurrection as &#8220;historical fact.&#8221; It is certainly no such thing.</p>
<p>There are no eye-witness accounts of the resurrection of Jesus. There is only hearsay. In addition to that, the only hearsay is only in the bible itself, so that&#8217;s hardly any basis for claiming historical truth.</p>
<p>Christianity can be no more convincingly argued than any other religion, including (but not limited to) Judaism, Islam, Mormanism, and Hinduism&#8230; and even Scientology. Every religion makes a claim of absolute truth and has their own talking points to back up their claims. Each one would scoff at your claim that Christianity is the only one that can be convincingly argued. Even among Christians, there are radical differences in the beliefs held by different sects, with many sects claiming to hold the only &#8220;correct&#8221; interpretation of the bible.</p>
<p>Anyone looking in from the outside can see the absurdity of your statements. With so many religions, all of them claiming to be the one special, true religion&#8230; all of them claiming to have extraordinary reasons for their truth&#8230; all of them claiming to hold the only path to salvation&#8230; it&#8217;s a bit of a stretch to say that yours in the only one that can be convincingly argued.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be happy to take a look at the video series you linked. Thanks for the link and for your visit.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalitynow.com/blog/2009/09/17/ray-comfort-and-charles-darwin/comment-page-1/#comment-588</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will admit that many Christians have a very shaky foundation for their own beliefs. But I don&#039;t think this necessarily debunks the historicity of the Christian faith (which, by the way, is the only faith in which the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead is a historical fact).

Not only do we have the writings of the earliest apostles of Jesus, but likewise those writings of the church fathers (Irenaeus, Ignatius, Justin Martyr, etc.) who knew and spoke to the apostles or spoke to those who knew and spoke to the apostles after Jesus&#039; death and resurrection.

Christianity alone is the only religion that can convincingly be argued. Even Judaism, its parent religion, is indebted to the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, because if He fulfilled the Jewish Scriptures, then we know Judaism was true.

This might sound like an oversimplification, but after three years of atheism, I have looked into these things for myself. You would be hard-pressed to push me from my position.

But if I might, I would like to suggest a video series which has independently come to many of the same conclusions I have:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=183603415C6C7C9A&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Real Jesus&lt;/a&gt;

God Bless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will admit that many Christians have a very shaky foundation for their own beliefs. But I don&#8217;t think this necessarily debunks the historicity of the Christian faith (which, by the way, is the only faith in which the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead is a historical fact).</p>
<p>Not only do we have the writings of the earliest apostles of Jesus, but likewise those writings of the church fathers (Irenaeus, Ignatius, Justin Martyr, etc.) who knew and spoke to the apostles or spoke to those who knew and spoke to the apostles after Jesus&#8217; death and resurrection.</p>
<p>Christianity alone is the only religion that can convincingly be argued. Even Judaism, its parent religion, is indebted to the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, because if He fulfilled the Jewish Scriptures, then we know Judaism was true.</p>
<p>This might sound like an oversimplification, but after three years of atheism, I have looked into these things for myself. You would be hard-pressed to push me from my position.</p>
<p>But if I might, I would like to suggest a video series which has independently come to many of the same conclusions I have:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=183603415C6C7C9A" rel="nofollow">The Real Jesus</a></p>
<p>God Bless!</p>
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		<title>By: ShaneG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShaneG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If previously (as claimed) the US was a &#039;Christian Nation&#039; which is now being converted to atheism wouldn&#039;t the statement &quot;An entire generation is being brainwashed by atheistic evolution without even hearing the alternative&quot; not make a lot of sense?

Surely the descendants of the christian forebears would certainly hear the alternative but turn towards a better explanation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If previously (as claimed) the US was a &#8216;Christian Nation&#8217; which is now being converted to atheism wouldn&#8217;t the statement &#8220;An entire generation is being brainwashed by atheistic evolution without even hearing the alternative&#8221; not make a lot of sense?</p>
<p>Surely the descendants of the christian forebears would certainly hear the alternative but turn towards a better explanation?</p>
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		<title>By: Crimden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crimden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd that these two are so obsessed with the American nation-state. Do they not want to distribute their comedy elsewhere or does their neo-cult have some sort of political implications perhaps?

Cleve - xtianity doesn&#039;t have its own creation myth; it simply steals the Judaic one for reason of geo-history, subjugation, and negation. If the Jewish mythology is so beneficial, why not convert? (Like I don&#039;t no the answer to this one...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd that these two are so obsessed with the American nation-state. Do they not want to distribute their comedy elsewhere or does their neo-cult have some sort of political implications perhaps?</p>
<p>Cleve &#8211; xtianity doesn&#8217;t have its own creation myth; it simply steals the Judaic one for reason of geo-history, subjugation, and negation. If the Jewish mythology is so beneficial, why not convert? (Like I don&#8217;t no the answer to this one&#8230;)</p>
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