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	<title>Comments on: Herding Cats and Situational Etiquette</title>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalitynow.com/blog/2009/10/13/herding-cats-and-situational-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I take your point about being brainwashed to be nice to idiot religionists and have to admit that there are probably many who are that way, I’m not just nice to idiot religionists. I’m nice to everyone. I don’t care what their beliefs are, so I will be polite as long as it’s warranted.

As for wearing the “Jesus is Lord” t-shirts (and whatnot), you’re probably right in some regions of the country. In others, the wearer would get the silent treatment (or at least passive avoidance). I’ve seen this and heard quite a few stories about it. I’ve also seen many stories of people wearing atheist t-shirts (or whatnot) that garner nothing but positive comments.

That aside, my point in this post was to say that wearing the “Jesus is Lord” t-shirts is just as rude as wearing a “There is no god” t-shirt. Being “in your face” about beliefs (religious, political, or otherwise) is obnoxious, from whichever side of the fence.

Many atheists don’t like evangelists, so turning into one seems a bit hypocritical.

Side note: I do make a distinction between personal social behavior (what I’m talking about in this post) and organizational actions such as those undertaken by the FFRF, the Secular Coalition, and other activist groups. It comes down to there being a time and a place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I take your point about being brainwashed to be nice to idiot religionists and have to admit that there are probably many who are that way, I’m not just nice to idiot religionists. I’m nice to everyone. I don’t care what their beliefs are, so I will be polite as long as it’s warranted.</p>
<p>As for wearing the “Jesus is Lord” t-shirts (and whatnot), you’re probably right in some regions of the country. In others, the wearer would get the silent treatment (or at least passive avoidance). I’ve seen this and heard quite a few stories about it. I’ve also seen many stories of people wearing atheist t-shirts (or whatnot) that garner nothing but positive comments.</p>
<p>That aside, my point in this post was to say that wearing the “Jesus is Lord” t-shirts is just as rude as wearing a “There is no god” t-shirt. Being “in your face” about beliefs (religious, political, or otherwise) is obnoxious, from whichever side of the fence.</p>
<p>Many atheists don’t like evangelists, so turning into one seems a bit hypocritical.</p>
<p>Side note: I do make a distinction between personal social behavior (what I’m talking about in this post) and organizational actions such as those undertaken by the FFRF, the Secular Coalition, and other activist groups. It comes down to there being a time and a place.</p>
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		<title>By: anti_supernaturalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>anti_supernaturalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>** I’m free to wear only if I dare

Nonsense: we&#039;ve been brainwashed to be &quot;nice&quot; to idiot religionists who wear crosses and stars of David as fashion statements. God bling.

I&#039;m sure if I bought and wore any in-your-face T-shirt proclaiming garbage like &quot;Jesus is Lord&quot; in bold nobody would criticize it and I&#039;d get others who would praise me with a friendly Amen. What I won’t get will be criticism from anyone in the US telling me to stop being a pushy Jesus propagandist, threatening me, or trying to harm me.

However, I guarantee that publicly wearing “Bored with Jesus” or “Atheists have more Sex” or “God is dead” on a Tee with get stares, yells, threats, and physical intimidation. I’m free to wear only if I dare.

That’s not being polite; it’s being careful. After all we atheists are the most hated minority in Ameristan, xian Taliban dominated America. [Visit the Pew Memorial Foundation web site for solid evidence from well run surveys.]

There should be equal time for disbelief in a secular society — insist on it, but only anonymously in print. Because we don’t live in a land which permits “freedom of conscience” to non-believing minorities.

which is why I protect myself from the great American thug:

the anti_supernaturalist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>** I’m free to wear only if I dare</p>
<p>Nonsense: we&#8217;ve been brainwashed to be &#8220;nice&#8221; to idiot religionists who wear crosses and stars of David as fashion statements. God bling.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure if I bought and wore any in-your-face T-shirt proclaiming garbage like &#8220;Jesus is Lord&#8221; in bold nobody would criticize it and I&#8217;d get others who would praise me with a friendly Amen. What I won’t get will be criticism from anyone in the US telling me to stop being a pushy Jesus propagandist, threatening me, or trying to harm me.</p>
<p>However, I guarantee that publicly wearing “Bored with Jesus” or “Atheists have more Sex” or “God is dead” on a Tee with get stares, yells, threats, and physical intimidation. I’m free to wear only if I dare.</p>
<p>That’s not being polite; it’s being careful. After all we atheists are the most hated minority in Ameristan, xian Taliban dominated America. [Visit the Pew Memorial Foundation web site for solid evidence from well run surveys.]</p>
<p>There should be equal time for disbelief in a secular society — insist on it, but only anonymously in print. Because we don’t live in a land which permits “freedom of conscience” to non-believing minorities.</p>
<p>which is why I protect myself from the great American thug:</p>
<p>the anti_supernaturalist</p>
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