{"id":1591,"date":"2009-10-24T15:10:21","date_gmt":"2009-10-24T20:10:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/?p=1591"},"modified":"2009-10-24T15:10:21","modified_gmt":"2009-10-24T20:10:21","slug":"fun-with-church-signs-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/2009\/10\/24\/fun-with-church-signs-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Fun with church signs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Occasionally, I see a church sign that just begs to be addressed. A local church recently changed their sign to read:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Time well spent is time spent in prayer.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I know that the idea that a god listens to (and answers) prayers is something that is foundational to many peoples&#8217; religious beliefs. Hearing the phrases &#8220;I&#8217;ll pray for you&#8221; or &#8220;You&#8217;ll be in my prayers&#8221; is an all-too-common occurrence. To an atheist, it sounds even worse when someone asks &#8220;Please pray for my friend&#8221; or &#8220;Your prayers would be appreciated.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" style=\"border: 0pt none; margin: 0px 0px 5px 15px; display: inline;\" title=\"Prayer - How to do nothing and still think you're helping\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/PrayerDoesNothing.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Prayer - How to do nothing and still think you're helping\" width=\"150\" height=\"200\" align=\"right\" \/> Not only do I feel that the person asking me to pray is engaging in nothing more than wishful thinking, but he&#8217;s asking <strong>me<\/strong> to participate in his do-nothing fantasy world as well&#8230; in the belief that clasping my hands together and wishing really, <strong>really<\/strong> hard is going to make any difference to his situation.<\/p>\n<p>Prayer is contradictory to some pretty basic Christian beliefs, too. Another common phrase that is heard from religious folks is &#8220;God has a plan&#8221; or &#8220;God will show me the way.&#8221; Their god is supposedly all-powerful, as well&#8230; omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. So&#8230; wouldn&#8217;t he already <strong>know<\/strong> what they want? If that god has a plan, won&#8217;t his plan play out as he designed it&#8230; with our without their prayers?<\/p>\n<p>Prayer is an attempt to change the will of a god. Doesn&#8217;t that seem a bit egotistical on the part of the person praying? On one hand, believers will say their god is mighty, loving, benevolent, and all-knowing&#8230; but they&#8217;ll turn around and try to tell him something, anyway&#8230; as if he doesn&#8217;t already know&#8230; as if they can change his mind.<\/p>\n<p>I suppose some might simply pray their adoration for their god instead of asking for his assistance. That doesn&#8217;t seem to be quite as ego-centric, but it does seem to be just as irrelevant. And really, if some almighty god really gets off on his subjects repeatedly telling him how awesome he is, isn&#8217;t that just petty and vain?<\/p>\n<p>I think prayer is one of the religious concepts that believers don&#8217;t think about very much. They just do it. Thinking about it would &#8220;break the spell,&#8221; as Daniel Dennett would say. If the practice is examined too closely, it falls apart into a chaotic pile of contradictions, pettiness, and wasted time.<\/p>\n<p>I propose fixing the church sign by replacing &#8220;well spent&#8221; with &#8220;wasted.&#8221; It would be far more accurate and might actually encourage congregation members to raise their heads, get off their knees, unclasp their hands, and instead of simply <strong>wishing<\/strong> for a situation to improve (thereby doing nothing), take action to improve the situation.<\/p>\n<p>Now <strong>that<\/strong> would be time well spent.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Occasionally, I see a church sign that just begs to be addressed. A local church recently changed their sign to read: Time well spent is time spent in prayer. I know that the idea that a god listens to (and answers) prayers is something that is foundational to many peoples&#8217; religious beliefs. Hearing the phrases &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/2009\/10\/24\/fun-with-church-signs-2\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Fun with church signs&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[182,190,448,638,858,859],"class_list":["post-1591","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-church-signs","tag-christianity","tag-church-signs","tag-islam","tag-prayer","tag-wishful-thinking","tag-wishing","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1591","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1591"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1591\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1591"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1591"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1591"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}