{"id":2004,"date":"2010-02-05T11:22:14","date_gmt":"2010-02-05T16:22:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/?p=2004"},"modified":"2010-02-05T11:22:14","modified_gmt":"2010-02-05T16:22:14","slug":"the-tim-tebow-superbowl-ad-and-pam-stenzel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/2010\/02\/05\/the-tim-tebow-superbowl-ad-and-pam-stenzel\/","title":{"rendered":"The Tebow Superbowl Ad and Pam Stenzel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"border: 0pt none; margin: 0px 15px 5px 0px; display: inline;\" title=\"Tim Tebow\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/02\/tebow01.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Tim Tebow\" width=\"204\" height=\"203\" align=\"left\" \/> The Superbowl ad featuring Tim Tebow (which has yet to be seen) has been causing a big brouhaha lately&#8230; with pro-choice groups opposing it to pro-life (anti-abortion) groups defending it. I&#8217;ve mostly ignored the situation, but after reading a <a title=\"Fans of Pam Stenzel, speaker and author: Tim Tebow and the National Organization for &quot;some&quot; Women!\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/note.php?note_id=312803941210\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Facebook note<\/a> by <a title=\"Pam Stenzel - Addressing the Importance of Abstinence\" href=\"http:\/\/pamstenzel.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Pam Stenzel<\/a> and the accompanying comments, I figured it was time to toss my opinion into the mix.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Note:<\/strong> <em>You can read the public Facebook note above, but you need a Facebook account to access it. You can also read the comments to the note (which I won&#8217;t address here), some of which are just as wrong-headed (if not more-so) than Stenzel&#8217;s piece.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Just to get it out of the way, I couldn&#8217;t care less if CBS shows the ad or not. I doubt if it&#8217;s anything over the top. <a title=\"Focus on the Family\" href=\"http:\/\/www.focusonthefamily.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Focus on the Family<\/a> paid their $2.5 million for the ad, so bully for them. Tim Tebow sounds like a nice guy who&#8217;s done some nice charity work and is, evidently, a good football player. He and his family are overtly religious, having beliefs with which I obviously disagree, but they&#8217;re entitled to their opinions. Focus on the Family is well-known for its bigotry and intolerance toward homosexuals and pro-choice views, so I have more of a problem with them, but again&#8230; free speech.<\/p>\n<p>On to Pam Stenzel&#8217;s note&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Stenzel starts with this (emphasis mine).<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Tim Tebow\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s pro-life ad on the upcoming Super Bowl is sure making the news and making lots of people uncomfortable. <strong>We&#8217;re always harping on athletes to be more responsible and engaged in the issues of their day<\/strong>, and less concerned with just cashing checks.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Really? We are? That&#8217;s funny, because what I normally see is people telling athletes and other celebrities to shut the hell up and stick to making movies. Since when have we (perhaps this is an exclusive &#8220;we&#8221; club) wanted our athletes to become political or social commentators?<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, Stenzel, who titles her post &#8220;Tim Tebow and the National Organization for &#8216;some&#8217; Women!&#8221; claims that because of their opposition to the ad, the <a title=\"National Organization for Women\" href=\"http:\/\/www.now.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">National Organization for Women<\/a> isn&#8217;t pro-choice&#8230; they&#8217;re pro-abortion. She says&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Tebow&#8217;s 30-second ad hasn&#8217;t even run yet, but it already has provoked &#8220;The National Organization for Women Who Only Think Like Us&#8221; to reveal something important about themselves: They aren&#8217;t actually &#8220;pro-choice&#8221; so much as they are pro-abortion.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Interestingly, her piece never really explains how or why they are pro-abortion instead of pro-choice. Perhaps Stenzel&#8217;s low-tolerance worldview sees pro-choice as pro-abortion regardless of who delivers the message? &#8230;or perhaps it&#8217;s because her statement is blatantly false.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s her summary of the Tebow story.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>She [<em>Tim Tebow&#8217;s mother<\/em>] got pregnant in 1987, post-Roe v. Wade, and while on a Christian mission in the Philippines, she contracted a tropical ailment. Doctors advised her the pregnancy could be dangerous, but she exercised her freedom of choice, chose life, and now, 20-some years later, the outcome of that choice is her Heisman Trophy winner son.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s the classic &#8220;You would have killed Beethoven&#8221; argument which Richard Dawkins dissects in his <a title=\"The Washington Post - The Great Tim Tebow Fallacy by Richard Dawkins\" href=\"http:\/\/newsweek.washingtonpost.com\/onfaith\/panelists\/richard_dawkins\/2010\/02\/the_great_tim_tebow_fallacy.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Washington Post op-ed piece<\/a>. It&#8217;s a silly argument for being pro-life. Aside from the fact that it could easily be turned on its head using Charles Manson or Pol Pot or any other &#8220;evil&#8221; person, it implies that, if only there would be no abortions, there would be more superstars in our midst. Dawkins does a fine job of dismissing it, so there&#8217;s no need to dwell on it here.<\/p>\n<p>Stenzel <strong>does<\/strong> say that something we can all agree on is that everyone &#8220;wishes the &#8216;need&#8217; for abortions wasn&#8217;t so great.&#8221; Yes, she put quotes around the word &#8220;need.&#8221; That aside, yes&#8230; I think pretty much everyone could agree that fewer abortions are better (they just don&#8217;t agree as to <strong>why<\/strong> fewer abortions are better). Stenzel&#8217;s solution is abstinence. That&#8217;s her whole shtick. However, her disgust and disapproval for anything other than her puritanical version of morality infuses her message, writing statements such as <em>[sic]<\/em>&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Apparently NOW feels this commercial is an inappropriate message for America to see for 30 seconds, but women in bikinis selling beer is the right one.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We need celebrities who are self-possessed and selfcontrolled enough to use their wattage to advertise commitment over decadence.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You know what we really need more of? Famous guys who aren&#8217;t embarrassed to practice sexual restraint until mariage, and to say it out loud.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Promiscuity is so the norm that if a stud isn&#8217;t shagging everything in sight, we feel faintly ashamed for him. How sad.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Seriously? Given context, a Superbowl ad featuring bikini-clad women selling beer (I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve seen that one, but I&#8217;m looking forward to it) is perfectly appropriate.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t even know what she means by &#8220;commitment over decadence.&#8221; Commitment to abstinence? Does decadence meaning &#8220;sex before marriage?&#8221; Perhaps it means &#8220;anything short of a Christ-like perfection.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The absurdity of &#8220;practice sexual restraint until marriage&#8221; is perhaps revealing. After marriage, guys don&#8217;t have to have any restraint? Is that what Stenzel believes? What is bad about pre-marital sex, anyway? She seems to have a blanket problem with it and I&#8217;m going to go out on a limb and assume that it&#8217;s a biblical objection.<\/p>\n<p>The last statement is an over-the-top straw man caricature that deserves no response other than outright derision.<\/p>\n<p>Stenzel just keeps digging herself in deeper as she goes.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Abortion doesn&#8217;t just involve serious issues of life, but of potential lives, Heisman trophy winners, scientists, doctors, artists, inventors, Little Leaguers &#8212; who would never come to be if their birth mothers had not wrestled with the stakes and chosen to carry those lives to term.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Didn&#8217;t she already cover this? Didn&#8217;t I already respond with something indicating that that same list of &#8220;potential lives&#8221; could also include murderers, rapists, child molesters, drug dealers, and evil dictators? What about the mothers of <strong>those<\/strong> people? Stenzel doesn&#8217;t say, but if she were honest, she would include those categories in her list, too. She would also include women who don&#8217;t have sex when they ovulate&#8230; or men who masturbate.<\/p>\n<p>Then Stenzel continues her rant against NOW.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>But when a woman uses her right to choose but chooses life instead of an abortion, NOW has a fit!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>No, Stenzel. That&#8217;s not the case. They don&#8217;t have a problem with a woman choosing to have a child instead of having an abortion. They have a problem with Focus on the Family&#8217;s bigoted, anti-choice imposition of their bronze-age values on women. Even though I haven&#8217;t seen the commercial, I can place a fairly safe bet that the message, though perhaps subtle, is &#8220;If you choose to have an abortion, you&#8217;re immoral.&#8221; <strong>That<\/strong> is what NOW sees as the problem and <strong>that<\/strong> is why NOW is actually for <strong>all<\/strong> women.<\/p>\n<p>They promote a right to <strong>choose<\/strong>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Superbowl ad featuring Tim Tebow (which has yet to be seen) has been causing a big brouhaha lately&#8230; with pro-choice groups opposing it to pro-life (anti-abortion) groups defending it. I&#8217;ve mostly ignored the situation, but after reading a Facebook note by Pam Stenzel and the accompanying comments, I figured it was time to toss &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/2010\/02\/05\/the-tim-tebow-superbowl-ad-and-pam-stenzel\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The Tebow Superbowl Ad and Pam Stenzel&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[16],"tags":[32,34,339,340,499,532,552,578,608,644,645,737,770,807],"class_list":["post-2004","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-morality","tag-abortion","tag-abstinence","tag-focus-on-the-family","tag-football","tag-marriage","tag-morality","tag-national-organization-for-women","tag-now","tag-pam-stenzel","tag-pro-choice","tag-pro-life","tag-sex","tag-superbowl","tag-tim-tebow","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2004","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2004"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2004\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2004"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2004"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rationalitynow.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2004"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}